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Dan and Louis have a quick chat then interview Mark Merriwether Vorderbruggen, Ph.D. 

Mark is a Ph.D. chemist, an herbalist, and a nationally-recognized foraging instructor bringing you over a decade of public speaking at museums, garden clubs, prepper groups, historical societies, nature parks, botanical gardens, MENSA clubs, distilleries, Toastmasters, and multiple podcasts.

We chat about talk about foraging, herbal medicine, ethnobotany, and why our ancient, caveman bodies have such difficulties in the modern world.

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