Justin is joined by John Tuders, former SVP, Product and Payments Innovation for Bank of America, currently PhD candidate and adjunct Professor of Innovation at University of North Carolina, Charlotte. Justin and John talk about what it’s like to forge a career in innovation and what innovation actually means in a large enterprise setting. They examine why some institutions are better suited for innovation than others and why. And they chat about what it means to teach innovation and why it's an important area of study for anyone studying business.