We interview Dr. Chocolate, Kristy Leissle, scholar of the global cocoa and chocolate industries, lecturer at the University of Washington Bothell where she teaches Global Studies, and author of Cocoa - due out later this month.

Hear Kristy’s story of how she made the switch to study chocolate in an educational setting.

We move into discussing the daily living Kristy saw in the life of cacao farmers in West Africa, some details often not always talked about when discussing the landscape of origins.

Are there resource differences between commodity and specialty segments in cacao? Why is that?

Listen to the whole conversation in Episode 21.

Pre-order Kristy’s book, Cocoa, here: https://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Resources-Kristy-Leissle/dp/1509513175