In this third of three podcasts on the theme of motherhood, Barbara and David are joined by two guests: Sabine Leitner, who trained as a musician in her native Austria, opened a music school and puppet theatre for young children in Vienna, and then changed careers, earning an MA in Philosophy and another MA in Psychosynthesis, which is a form of therapy she now practices in London; and Roxana Haloiu, a qualified and experienced Montessori practitioner, and mother of baby Theo. To combine the two vocations, she also now runs a Montessori-inspired playgroup for her north London community.