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Episode 21 - Paul Jackson - The Gin Guide


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  • Hello and Welcome to Episode 21.
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  • October is breast cancer month.
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Weekly Gin Recommendation
  • My Weekly Recommendation - Massingberd-Mundy Burrells gin
  • Focussing on your heritage is a good brand story because you have something solid to base it on. It also gives natural prestige to what it is that your selling.
  • The flip side of that is that you have to actually produce something that is worth of that prestige.
  • The Massingberd-Mundy bases their story around the South Ormsby estate which was purchased in 1638 from the Skipwiths by Sir Drayner Massingberd.
  • The South Ormsby estate was held for 400 years by the Massingberd’s who became Massingberd-Mundy in the 19th century.
  • This is where the Massingberd-Mundy distillery takes it’s name.
  • Head Distiller Tristan Jorgensen took on the mantle of producing this gin. He wanted a juniper led, traditional London Dry
  • The nose is really interesting. There is a freshness to it. Almost a sweetness to the aroma along with a zestiness too.
  • The flavour profile is breathtaking. You instantly get the juniper and dryness hitting you, then you get a citrus flavour followed by a sweetness followed by a bit of heat before the flavour drops off ever so slowly.
  • The whole profile is so smooth. So smooth I would be happy to have this as a sipping gin. I don’t often say that.
  • I tried this with my normal Mediterranean tonic and I have to say that this really enhanced the flavour even further. I would say there is a dryness to the gin which normally would niggle me, like a Negroni does, but in this case it adds to the experience.
  • I think it would work with any light tonic including Elderflower.
  • I think this would be excellent as a dry martini and I can’t decide whether it could also work as a dirty martini or a Vespa martini. Something I need to try
  • This has been added to many cocktails and I am keen to try this out.
  • Congratulations Tristan and the team on the South Ormsby Estate in creating a gin which matches the heritage behind it .


Paul Jackson from The Gin Guide
Career
  • 2009 - 2017 Digital Marketing
  • Worked for couple of agencies
  • Business around the world
  • Consulting work with Google for online advertising
  • Speaking at Google conference

Start of Gin Guide

  • Right place right time
  • Very quick response to gin
  • Readership of website
  • Was not long before distilleries and brands wanted to be involved.
  • Very up front that did not have knowledge. Had enthusiasm
  • Associate and write in a way that suitable for the people that were consuming it
  • There was a choice between marketing and gin. Gin was the winner.


Judging

  • WSET inviting him on to a level 1 course covering all spirits
  • Carried on through all the courses which has been hugely valuable
  • Contents and comparison for judging gins
  • Invitations to panels
  • Judging is now a large part of his work but only for The Gin Guide Awards


The Gin Guide

Overview

  • Revenue from subscriptions
  • Also provides consultancy mainly for marketing strategy and planning
  • In addition helps plan launches for new brand or existing brand launching new gin rather than advising on more practical matters like distilling etc.


History

  • Difference from 2014 to now.
  • Sipsmith emerging 11 years ago
  • Mainly supermarket brands at that point
  • Look at back bar and see a few gins now there are tens of them. Volume of gin has been huge
  • Everyone has local distillery. So much innovation
  • So international now
  • 5 or 6 years ago phone calls with London, Birmingham and Manchester now Slovenia, Estonia and Angola


The Gin Guide Difference

  • Accessible without jargon
  • Appeals to people are new to gin as well those who know about gin
  • Independent and objective. No sponsors.
  • Impartial guide.
  • Wants people to try and experiment
  • Garnishing section added so that would have the recommended garnish for 400 gins, so that you have starting place to go to
  • Find things there that are relevant are useful


The Gin Guide - Brand

  • Global guide to gin and distilleries with aim to help people to discover new and existing gin
  • Gin brands and distilleries showcase gins and distilleries and deliver to audience that follows The Gin Guide who are passionate about gin.
  • The brand means to Paul as much as people using it
  • Stands as sign of authenticity / credibility
  • Keen to maintain brand by constantly monitoring and changing


The Gin Guide - Services

  • Product development - helping refine product if new and also helping to refine existing products
  • Got concept for flavour profile and ask view on whether that is correct
  • Want view on final product and whether it is ready to go
  • Implementation


Distillers

The Gin Guide Membership

  • Access to trade professional and users that read gin guide
  • Having showcase to large user base on social media and newsletter about the distillery and the people behind it
  • A lot of people find out about gin. Very much pays for itself
  • All about distillery and people behind it
  • Who they are trying to target and who the resources are


Distillers

  • Trend for local focus because easy if name after a local area to galvanise support
  • If not focussed on location have to appeal in a different ways such as branding or flavouring


Crafting The Brand

  • Authenticity
  • Important to have good spirit first and foremost
  • Secondary for people to know about botanical and process
  • Like to know who is behind the brand
  • If great spirit then going to sell repeat bottles
  • Some brands have nice bottle but not such good spirit so will sell one bottle and no more


Gin Of The Week

  • Invite only feature
  • Lots of international readers and consumers
  • Mix of gins around the world
  • Mix of types like navy strength, Old Tom or something in flavour direction
  • Mix up with classics
  • Brand new launches
  • The Gower Gin Company last week. Dragon Strength Gin
  • Always good quality gins
  • Gin of the week announced on Monday


Helping Member Distilleries

  • Mad time
  • Challenging for a lot of people
  • Lots of people Innovated and adapted
  • Tough job being a distiller
  • Helping advice and guidance
  • Helping transition from revenue from trade to consumers and direct retail
  • Updating websites and platforms and changing to more direct marketing etc


The Gin Guide Awards

Why New Design and Sustainability Section ?

  • Added first time last year
  • 2 Import things to consumers
  • Design
  • Sustainability
  • Design - look of bottle and spirit itself
  • Sustainability - Important factor in decision making. Great to showcase what is happening so encourages other distilleries to do the same
  • All about discovery


Winners

  • Number of winners determined by the amount of gins entered into that category achieving a threshold score
  • Threshold for being a finalist and threshold for being a winner
  • Pauls wife is a maths teacher and is on hand to help with the calculations
  • Exclusive to win an award and has meaning


Logistics

  • Hundreds of gins get entered
  • Beast of projects
  • 5 or 6 months of work
  • Setting things up to opening entry and bottling up all of sample into minatures for judges
  • Providing feedback to all entrants
  • Feedback of panel of experts
  • Chance to find distilleries around the world and showcase the gin for winners


Judging Panel

  • Very open showcasing who the panel is
  • Broad representation of professionals in the industry
  • Retail
  • Distribution
  • Bar Tenders
  • Mixologists
  • Distillers
  • Writers and bloggers
  • Have to be successful with multiple audiences
  • Get viewpoint from bredth of people
  • Difficult to choose panels
  • Judges are enthusiastic and trustworthy


Award Ceremony

  • Don’t want to burden people with event cost in their ticket
  • Entries from 30 different countries
  • Can’t easily make to ceremony
  • Logistics and costs of organising
  • Judging process rigorous and watertight rather than event side of it
  • Awards have visual and long lasting content
  • Great amount of PR to trade
  • Winners catalogue
  • More exciting things this year include partnerships with other companies
  • More will be revealed


Reviews

  • Don’t look at marketing information / botanicals etc
  • Mainly down to spirit so won’t really comment on the bottle
  • If have a good bottle need to have the spirit to match


Process

  • Pour out into wine glass
  • Let breathe and then look at aroma or appearance Looking for sediment
  • Taste neat a number of times
  • Taste with ice or water. Reduces ABV of gin
  • Taste with tonic as well. Very important to do this
  • Try a few garnishes
  • Try a gin again at another time


How do taste so many gins ?

  • Spread out as much as possible
  • Spit it out rather than drink too much
  • Taste gins individually
  • Palette fatigue real thing so very difficult if you are assessing gins. Sometimes there are 50 gins tasted by other judges !!
  • The maximum Paul has tasted in one sitting is 20
  • Judging is done remotely for gin guide awards to allow plenty of time to make their assessments


Future

The Gin Guide Awards

  • Entry opens for 2021 start of January
  • More additions for winners and finalists
  • Possibly new categories
  • Wait and see


The Gin Guide

  • More of the same
  • More ways for people to discover gin through video and live content
  • Large segment of market that know what they like but show them some new gins within the category they might find interesting
  • Printed version coming


Covid

  • Unpredictable at the moment
  • A lot of people have changed from trade to consumer
  • Lots of innovation
  • Virtual experience and online tasting
  • Virtual events such as International Scottish Gin Day
  • Those with gin tours and gin schools that created large revenue making it difficult at the moment
  • Gin tourism and trade impacting the industry
  • Consumer side booming.
  • Hopefully Christmas strong for sales
  • Lot of distillery thrived that have direct consumer focus
  • Lots of challenges around events and artisan markets


What is the best way to get in touch ?

  • Instagram - @theginguide
  • Twitter - @theginguide
  • Face Book - The Gin Guide
  • Web - https://www.theginguide.com


What is your favourite gin and how would you serve it ?

  • Impartial so not have favourite but will go through some he has enjoyed in the past and some which he has enjoyed recently:-
  • St Georges Terroir Gin
  • Martin Millers Gin
  • QVT Gin
  • Shire Gin
  • Greensand Ridge
  • 3 Wrens Gin - Bison Grass and Raspberry Gin Aged in Balsamic Vinegar Casks


What does gin mean to you ?

  • Enjoyment and socialising and convivial element
  • Easy to get caught up in other elements
  • Use your personal preferences
  • Discovery



Instagram Community Shout Out
  • My Instagram shoutout this week is @theginlord
  • I apologise that I did not see your live for a month on 10th September.
  • I really love the frankness of your lives. Please keep them coming.
  • I like the way you engage and I would like to publicly thank you for your comments relating to last weeks episode about supporting distilleries.
  • Really enjoyed the live you did with Tristan Jorgensen from Massingberd-Mundy. Really helped me when preparing for Episode 12.
  • Always enjoy the latest Negroni incarnations. I am still trying to get Negroni right but I think the only way is to ditch the Campari !!
  • Always enjoy your reviews especially the one on The Gower Gin Company Dragon Strength
  • Didn’t enjoy your post about reducing your gin collection
  • I am glad you have started your podcast and wish you a lot of luck with that.
  • I also have even more respect having found out recently that you are a judge on The Gin Guide Awards.
  • Thank you again for your lives and keep them coming.


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Final Thought
  • The thing that I like about the gin community that I have met so far is that no one judges anyone for what they believe, what they look like or who they choose to be.
  • The world would be a better place if everyone took that view.
  • Grab your drink, toast those you love, enjoy your weekend and whether your decide to party or stay in I will be with you in spirit !!!
  • Seriously though enjoy your weekend and I look forward to joining you for another episode next...
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GinigniteBy Ben Hampson