In this episode, Sarah talks about the difference between providing service to people who experience disabilities versus supporting people with disabilities. She talks about it in regards to the Medicaid and Medicare social service systems that often times people who experience disabilities have to depend on in order to try to self-direct their lives. Sarah encourages people to think outside the prism of the Medicaid and Medicare systems in order to connect to people to resources within their community in so that they can achieve autonomy over their lives and full inclusion in their communities.