How do you stay grounded when things feel uncertain? In this episode, Jude speaks with Joel Veenstra, Department of Drama Chair at UC Irvine, about how improv helps us navigate tension, embrace discomfort, and let go of needing to control outcomes. Together, they explore how building tolerance for uncertainty can deepen presence, collaboration, and connection in all walks of life.

*Connect with Joel - LinkedIn, UC Irvine, Global Improvisation Initiative, BOOK: Working Together in Theatre: Collaboration and Leadership by Robert Cohen and Joel Veenstra

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*Connect with Jude - Substack, Instagram, LinkedIn