This month we're at the Rail~Volution conference and join the final plenary of Vancouver 2019. Mac McCarthy of the Lincoln Institute, Lisa Bender, President of the City Council for Minneapolis, and Odetta MacLeish-White Managing Director of the Transformation Alliance.

The panel, moderated by Railvolution lifer GB Arrington discusses leadership, embracing the lived experience of riders, and to a small degree the future of the movement.