In this episode we drank kava and kratom and talked with Jason Hatch about life, Flipping Trucks in Costa Rica, Surfing, Videoing the best surfers in the world while traveling around the world and giving up drinking for good.  Jason is one of my favorite people and one hell of a surfer and a friend. We were all a little loopy from the kratom.  This was a mellow one.  Enjoy!