Devon’s drinking again. Steven is drinking more. Elephants have a “zombie gene” that appears to protect them from cancer. Some people find it harder to turn off a robot that is begging for its life. Devon explains why DS9 is the best, but strangest Star Trek. Devon has finished Clockwork Rocket by Greg Egan. Steven has not seen Castle Rock. Steven tells us about the Star Wars Destiny card game that sounds pretty cool. We talk about the Samantha Bee report on Asgardia.