Josh is joined once again by recurring guest Ben Luben for a double feature. First (Beginning-52:47) they discuss Nightmare Alley and how Guillermo del Toro did in straying from the fantasy genre, how the movie wades into politics without being too explicit about it, Bradley Cooper's leading performance and much more! Then (52:48-end) they talk about Paul Schrader's The Card Counter and how Schrader used a poker player to tell a story about dealing with guilt in a unique way, Oscar Isaac's haunted performance, the movie's message about America's lingering effects on veterans of the War on Terror and much more!

Spoilers for Nightmare Alley start at 30:22. Spoilers for The Card Counter start at 1:24:07.