In this special episode, John sits down with someone who knows him better than anyone - his brother, Pastor Matt Stephens, a Baptist preacher from their hometown of Columbus, Georgia. Together, they peel back the curtain on a question they get all the time:

“How did two brothers end up as pastors in two different denominations?”

Their warm, candid conversation explores:

• Growing up Methodist, shifting into Baptist life, and how each found their unique calling

• What ministry really looks like behind the scenes (hint: it’s not endless theological debates)

• How holiday gatherings actually go in the Stephens family

• Stories about their mother (who makes a guest appearance off-camera with hand signals)

• The daily realities, frustrations, surprises, and joys of leading churches

• How Matt is revitalizing multiple congregations across Columbus, GA

• Why church revitalization matters now more than ever

It’s a funny, heartfelt, down-to-earth episode about faith, family, calling, and what ministry looks like when the cameras are off and the holidays roll around.

Make sure to like, subscribe, and share, especially if you’re listening from Columbus, Georgia!