In this week's episode, Derrick Harris (ARCHITECHT) speaks with CoreOS CEO Alex Polvi about why containers are so big right now, and why they're only going to get bigger. He also discusses the rise of Kubernetes, including why CoreOS decided to embrace it and why he thinks it will reshape the relationships enterprises have with their cloud providers by providing an open, portable platform.

In the news segment, Harris and co-host Barb Darrow (Fortune) talk about Steve Ballmer's foray into data for sports and politics, and whether or not there's really a competition among countries to "win" at artificial intelligence.