We're back! In 2020! Well, we took a hiatus for a while, and we'll get to that soon... but today we've got one of our older guests. It's Liza!

We get to talking about the pandemic and how it's affected our lives, in education and personally too. It's time to look at things a bit more optimistically, and even though we don't know what the future holds... we're ready for it...

Utter Rubbish will try to stay a lot more on schedule... no promises, though!