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Episode 22 - Kate Carney from Sip and Share


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Welcome

  • Hello and Welcome to Episode 22

#nippleinatipple

  • Seen a lot of posts but would nice to see some more.
  • I appreciate that I have not yet but I do intend to very soon

Paul @theginguide

  • Great time with the legend that is Paul at The Gin Guide. Cannot wait till next year to hear all about the nominees for the awards

Review

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Weekly Gin Recommendation

Masons Dry Yorkshire Gin - Tea Edition

  • Got given this by a friend for helping them put up their children's trampoline.
  • So not sure that I would have chosen this.
  • Nose - traditional London Dry maybe with a vague sense of citrus
  • Flavour profile - Lemon zest followed by citrus heat followed by juniper at the back end
  • Lovely with a Mediterranean tonic. Would be great with light standard premium tonic. Think would also work with Elderflower. Delicate flavour.
  • Pretty smooth but not sure would work for me personally in a dry Martini. 
  • You would have to be careful in cocktails. May work with a heavily lemon based cocktail possibly.
  • My recommendation for a lovely refreshing G&T.


Kate Carney from Sip and Share

What attracted you to marketing in the first place ?

  • Not attraction. In the blood since birth
  • Grew up in parents advertising and design agency
  • When at university marketing management just felt natural


Why change to small business / entrepreneurial ?

  • Had agency since 2011 and spent a lot of time travelling around country.
  • Decided after Nan passed away decided that wanted to stay close to home because young family and house in need of refurbishment
  • So Kate thought Where can have biggest impact ? Made choice to work with small business and base herself at home permanently.


What makes a social media account stand out ?

  • Be consistent
  • Different ways to be consistent
  • Same type of photos taken
  • Show off your personality and let world in
  • Being authentic. Connects you to people who are potential customers on a human level
  • The ability to be your true self


What do I want some to think, feel, say, do ?

  • You need to know how you want someone to feel first. Once you answer that question you can decide on how to put together the right photo / text etc
  • Marketing is not easy. 
  • Being consistent is not easy in the context of how you want someone to feel and what you want someone to say behind your back.
  • If you are honest with those answers give you an understanding on the brand you want to create and the content you put out there.
  • This strategic stuff which shapes the brand is what Kate is all about


How can distilleries can stand out ?

  • Moving into and through not just showing a bottle.
  • Kate had a client who had coaches. 
  • In order to showcase them on social media she said we can’t show coaches. We need to show lifestyle content showing people having a great time.
  • Can’t just take a picture of a bottle. Can’t rest at that.
  • Need to communicate the distilleries / brands personality so that encourages the potential for drinking that product
  • Looking for connectivity 
  • Exciting stuff about building relationships
  • Some distillers are excited and want to explore lots of different ways of working. 
  • Some distillers are not so keen.
  • Important for them to have a platform and give distillers permission to show off. 
  • This is not for everyone
  • Need to be different. Could be:-
  • Showing off the messy distillery floor 
  • Showing distillery tours
  • The important message is that you are letting people in
  • Building relationships and being authentic
  • No longer good enough to post a picture of a bottle and think done it
  • Reinforces your credibility.
  • Shows that you are not just drop shipping the gin at door. 
  • Your brand distillery has personality
  • Dispel myth that business owners have to work certain way


Sip and Share

  • May 2020 - first time you could drive somewhere
  • A marketing client of Kate dropped off 4 gins and vodka and asked if she could taste
  • She joked should she do this to camera. Her client said all right, why not.
  • The gin was dropped off at 11:30. 
  • By 16:30 had bought some URL’s, chosen one to use, built a logo, website and got all the sip and share on socials
  • Posted some content that night about making a gin she had in the craft club gin box
  • Started to get traction
  • Decided she should give it a go
  • Never about being botanical specialist or trying to be a distiller. There are enough people making, talking and selling gin. 
  • So Kate thought what can I do ?


What can I do to bring all of this together in a fun way ?

  • Friday night tasting
  • Distiller interview four weeks later and competition
  • Distillery map
  • Membership squad 2 weeks ago. 
  • Rapid journey


Membership what do you get ?

  • Private membership group
  • Add value to all parties
  • Premium craft spirits drinkers want exclusivity offers that no one else. Offers that cannot get anywhere else
  • Events exclusive to them 
  • Stuff make them feel special
  • Get access to distillers that can’t get else where
  • Way to add value to all parties


How does it work from a distillers 

  • Feature 4 distillers per month
  • One distiller per week
  • Featured on front page
  • Lives or cocktail making 
  • The distiller can do as much or as little as they want
  • Focus is exclusive
  • Distillers do different things


The most important thing is to make the consumer feel special and for distiller show off and showcase their brand

  • Discounts and offers throughout the whole time
  • 20/30% off gins for fixed period of time. Generally killer discount lasts for 4 weeks
  • Providing value for everyone
  • Very different
  • Growing group of engaged craft spirit consumers
  • These consumers know the price points, know there is not high volume. Already segmented audience
  • Membership is great to taste test or share stuff. 
  • One distiller wants to give out samples and get feedback
  • The same distiller is also going to get the membership to name the gin
  • Can only fit in certain amount of distillers.


How did you start your journey with gin ?

  • Had procescco and some gin liqueurs
  • Went on night out after had her second child Poppy
  • Went down to London
  • Given warm Gordon’s can which was slightly warm
  • Made Kate even less convinced to try gin !!!
  • Her friend then spent the whole night trying to convince Kate of the merits of gin
  • Tried lots of gin and lots of cocktails
  • Grew as consumer of gin
  • Learnt quite quickly to have a few bottles gin in as a staple
  • Then started taste testing for retail friend
  • Amazing how your palette changes and th versatility of gin.
  • Gin market caters for everyone
  • Sip and share not gin and share because craft spirits not just gin
  • More experience the more you change palette wise
  • She now has one room which is full of gin


How do you enjoy gin ?

  • Introvenus drip preferably !!
  • Kate has a classic taste. 
  • Prefers craft gin and light tonic. 
  • Sometimes garnish, sometimes not
  • Like a liqueur too by the fire
  • She like to contextualise her drinking
  • Not big cocktail maker. Want to drink faster than make it
  • Running joke. Can’t drink unless take picture


Stand out brands massive respect for. On point for everything

  • Surrey Copper Distillery
  • Daisy Distillery
  • Pitwheel Distillery
  • Little Quaker
  • Lytham Gin
  • Stockport Gin very responsive. Look at all touch points
  • Talking to Gotland Gin and Lava Spirits stay in same circle and see where go from there 
  • Starts with having conversation
  • Can’t get back to everyone
  • Some people aren’t ready for a conversation
  • Some people won’t do a live 
  • Engaging with consumers but distiller doing left right and centre
  • Conversation make world go round and create opportunities
  • Respect for business owners


Where is Sip and Share going ?

  • Brand perspective consistently visible, lives relationship with distillers, podcasts
  • Membership base more member have more can do. More stuff for charity and more stuff for distillers
  • Expand non-gin products
  • Focus on memberships
  • No more ideas for a while


Get in touch 

  • Instagram
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Web


What is your favourite gin and how would serve it ?

  • A gin that you forget how much you like
  • Don’t add a garnish
  • Daisy Distillery Original. Ice and skinny tonic
  • Long list of gins
  • Top 3 classic gins 
  • Interesting experience in holiday park


What does gin mean to you ?

  • Fun
  • Spirit for everyone
  • So many different types and something on spectrum for everyone
  • Shows versatility
  • Can bring people together
  • Room in market for innovation for different things
  • Bring a bit of fun


Instagram Community Shout Out
  • My Instagram shoutout this week is Holly @memoirs_of_a_cocktail_girl_
  • Thank you very much for supporting the podcast and my instagram account @ginignite
  • The presentation and production of your posts are amazing. I love the way you style them and the props that you use.
  • I really loved your Viper gin win post. I loved the dried lemons and the wooden top vibe to the post
  • I loved your Raspberry Rose cocktail with the two gins Aviator and Liverpool rose gin
  • I really also liked your Malfy Lemon gin post with Artisan Drinks Co Agarve Lemon Tonic
  • I also love that you admit to occasionally cheating on gin
  • You produce some great content and I love the consistency of your feed.


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Final Thought
  • The thing that I like about the gin community that I have met so far is that no one judges anyone for what they believe, what they look like or who they choose to be.
  • The world would be a better place if everyone took that view.
  • Grab your drink, toast those you love, enjoy your weekend and whether your decide to party or stay in I will be with you in spirit !!!
  • Seriously though enjoy your weekend and I look forward to joining you for another episode next Friday.
  • Cheers

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GinigniteBy Ben Hampson