This was a fantastic conversation I had the good fortune to have with Kevin Wilhelm, CEO of Sustainable Business Consulting, author, public speaker, and so much more. We sat down near the conclusion of the Washington Oregon Higher Education Conference that was held this year at the University of Washington in Seattle.

The conversation went many places and if you’d like to find out where it went, you’re gonna have to go ahead and give it a listen.

As always, thanks for tuning in, folks!