This one has a little bit of "Dead Malls" vibe to it, as we talk through a Drift Practice Day held in the spring of 2005 at the long since- demolished Cloverleaf Mall in Richmond, Virginia (If I'm fair, this mall was in bad, bad shape even in 2005). This is one of those episodes where Mae was physically there as I was filming the drift cars. I had travelled to this event to actually participated, but elected not to due to concerns about my car's clutch.