So often we are told to be successful in business you must be ruthless, to achieve in sport you must me selfish as nice guy's finish last. Well join Ledge and Ben as they enter the realm of "Mythbusters" when they speak with this weeks guest Wayne "Schimma" Clifford. "Fresh From the Esky" puts it's new found maturity to the test when they venture into the opposition club of Brothers aussie rules football. And you don't get much bigger fish from Brothers(pardon the pun) than Wayne Clifford. Member of both the inaugural team to take the paddock and the first Brothers team to take the premiership cup, football wise Schimma achieved a lot as much due to hard work as his god given natural abilities including three seasons played at the QAFL level. But there is more to Wayne than football, find out how the same level of commitment and dedication lead to the dizzy heights of Australian representation at world title events and a very successful business career. These days busy with family, work, junior coaching and the odd media gig it's hard to believe he found time to risk his reputation with an appearance on "Fresh from the Esky" but risk it he has. As per usual have a listen and if you enjoy please pass on a 5 star rating, subscribe(to receive notifications, no cost), share with your friends and follow us on instagram @ freshfromtheesky. And remember to join us on the untapped beer app rating beers for us all to enjoy.