Devan is out this week, but I am joined by a very special guest: the incomparable Dr. Don Schaffner. Dr. Don is the host of the wonderful podcast, Food Safety Talk; Distinguished Professor and Extension Specialist at Rutgers University; and an all-around delightful person to chat with. In this episode, Dr. Don and I discuss how to keep a meaty Pop Tart from turning into beef stew — and then throw some listeria in the mix, deliver inertia and advice to my sister, and delve into mental health advocacy. And, of course, we talk a little bit about Merlin Mann.

Special Guest: Don Schaffner.