Welcome to IoT Coffee Talk where we have a fireside chat about all things IoT over a cup of coffee or two with some of the industry's leading business minds, thought leaders and technologists in a totally unscripted, organic format. Thanks for joining us. Sit back with a cup of Joe and enjoy the morning banter. 

On this week's installment Marc Pous (balena.io), David Vasquez (Verizon), Leonard Lee (neXt Curve), and Rob Tiffany (Ericsson) do a beat down of the iPhone 12 and attempt to figure out how it relates to IoT. There is also a bit of 5G banter. Is 5G really real? Check out this episode and find out!