This episode comes at you as the result of listener requests! It's a tough one, and a long one. Steph and Lathania (but mostly Steph) talk about abortion, what it means to be pro-life, and how our politics get in the way of finding real solutions. 

Tell us what you think! We know you'll have thoughts on this one. Email us at [email protected], or follow us on Instagram @sowhatdowehave and Twitter: @lathaniab and @stephkrider. Look for us on Clubhouse now, too! 

Edited by David Hartman/Black Bear Media.

References:

Source for the statistic that more Black babies are aborted than born in NYC
Josh Mandel's (now-deleted) tweet
The Holy Post podcast with a quick history of abortion as a political wedge issue, from 2016