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Episode 2212: No Time to Panic


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A remarkable interview with ABC News Chief National Correspondent Matt Gutman.   For nearly two decades working for ABC News,  Gutman lived with a secret. In "No Time to Panic," the award-winning reporter opens up about his stop-at-nothing journey to find a remedy to halt his panic attacks in their tracks.  In his live broadcasts, viewers saw an unflappable and gregarious reporter, known for shaking off close scrapes with danger to get the critical scoop—surviving captivity under Venezuela’s secret police, anacondas in the Amazon, the eyes of literal hurricanes, and sniper fire abroad. What viewers didn’t see was Matt’s decades long grapple with panic attacks, hidden behind the façade of imperturbability he’d carefully constructed in their wake.  A January 2020 broadcast regarding the crash that killed Kobe Bryant caused this public persona to crumble. Mid-panic,  Gutman would misstate the facts of a major story, leading to a month-long suspension, public shame, and overwhelming regret. Gutman candidly shares his story.
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