We play a quick game of "is that soda or beer" and Steven is shocked to learn something about Devon. The InSight lander landed on Mars. Devon talks about it's journey and what it's expected to do while on Mars. How can we build a time capsule to survive all forms of apocalypses? We talk about several options, most of which have a fatal flaw. Devon watched both Downsizing and Sorry to Bother You, both tangentially science fiction movies. Steven is still reading "The Dark Forest" and is glad that he is.