This week we are joined by Andrew Torrez to talk about his podcast, Opening Arguments, the bizarre legal era we are in, especially in terms of church state separation, and more.

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This episode was recorded on October 21, 2017 for release on December 12, 2017 as Dustin and Lauren are on parental leave. Watch the Facebook page and Twitters for updates on the baby.

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