Bill shines a flashlight on the truth about 5G radiation, and shares his chicken recipes to demonstrate the difference in spiciness. We get seriousness about the security relationship between IoT and 5G and why they are so closely linked.  Bill says good things about Christopher Krebs. Greg explains that investors and products buyers look at security companies differently. Greg laments the greed-over-security  and clown factory theory of the Bay Area security scene. Greg and Bill agree that the Atlanta and Austin areas are great security scenes.