In this Episode of Conversations About Running we are joined by regular guest Coach Hugo van den Broek. Hugo is the Head Coach at Kenya Experience camps and has decades of experience both as a professional marathon runner himself, and as a coach to runners of all levels. In this episode, Coach Callum and Coach Hugo discuss some of their training principles and philosophies and share insights into how they go about designing training programs for the athletes they coach. Callum talks about the pros and cons of following generic online programs - can they be useful, are there things to be aware of, and is there a limit to their effectiveness? And Hugo discusses what we can learn from the training principles of elite runners and tells us why we should avoid simply copying their workouts. We hope you enjoy listening to Conversations About Running, and if you do, please share and spread the word!