This was recorded on Thursday January 14th at 1:00pm ET, 6:00pm GMT

I'm joined by musician, radio, producer, and podcast host Giles Bidder. Giles hosts the fantastic podcast, 101 Part Time Jobs, where he dives in with established an independent musicians to talk about how they sustain themselves and their music.

Giles is one of the best hangs at there is we've spent many a times together over in the UK, as well as the United States. We played with his old band. Great Cynics on many occasions.

You can see everything Giles is up to here: GILES BIDDER

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