For some people, a silk rope and occasional spank is nowhere near enough. No, they’re thinking about being groped in dark alleys, or kidnapped and taken to a dungeon, or blackmailed into becoming someone’s toy for as long as they wish. Alex and Ellie venture into the world of consensual non-consent, and talk to author ATR about the complex morality and politics of BDSM and catering to a partner’s darkest, most depraved fantasies.

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