In this episode we welcome back youtube’s favorite Jiu Jitsu troubadour and second degree black belt Eli Knight to discuss the age old paradigm of “you either win or you learn.” Interestingly enough, our cohosts' and our guest’s positions change on this as the episode progresses. And, as per the usual, the conversation goes down some rabbit holes. So, what do YOU think? Is losing learning? Why or why not? Huge shoutout to Eli for coming back on, our sponsors and special shoutout to North-South Jiu Jitsu for providing our listeners with a unique promotional offer.