Musician and vocational mentor Julius Obregon, Jr., speaks with Will about parallels between musicianship and the spiritual journey. For Julius, vocation involves all of our lives and is driven by love. Just because one is called doesn't mean automatic arrival at one's destination; excellence requires discipline and learning from others. Our longings shape us, Julius says, and we are called to conform our longings to their divine source. This episode includes a clip of Julius' music.

Julius Obregon, Jr., is the assistant director for the Shema Center for Christian Formation. Find out more about the center here and listen to their podcast All Things here. You can listen to Julius' music here.

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