Has it ever felt like someone was arguing past you? Especially about politics? They treat you as if you are representing some group that you’re not aware of.

I think that may be a result of us focusing only on what we’re wanting to defeat without understanding the end goal beyond that.

I think that if we think of one another as one another as end’s in themselves rather than means to ends, then I begin to think about my interactions with others in a different way. How should we interact with each other?

I’m trying to avoid labeling of any kind for the sake of a more productive conversation about what we’d like to accomplish. I think we’d all like to be happy. It’s the way we get to that goal that is so controversial.

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