This special episode features my wife, Mele Martinez, with whom I discuss a recent controversy over what some refer to as White Evangelicalism. Hip-hop artist, Lecrae, recently began moving away from identifying as a Christian in that specific context and has instead opted to look at a form of Christianity that allows for multiple cultural expressions in the American church. The decision generated articles from high-profile pastoral figures such as John Piper and has added something to the overall discourse that both Mele and I have wanted to address for a long time.