Dan is joined by comedian, presenter, producer, satirist, and filmmaker, Dan Ilic! Mr. Ilic recorded this one just 'slightly' hungover....

We chat abut his surname, hitting a million downloads with A Rational Fear, witnessing Dave Anthony clash with Anthony Scaramucci, a play about Christopher Columbus, always working on backup careers, not knowing the hard work would eventually pay off, Beaconsfield: The Musical, sticking to a schedule, deadlines, having the fortune of meeting great people, winning not being the endgame, being shackled to other people's fantasy, always being on the lookout for new talent, making yourself uncomfortable, the gift of giving yourself permission to do something, working with Andrew Denton on Hungry Beast, discovering how hard it was to make TV, just start making the thing, having great mentors, absorbing the fear as an executive producer, working on Tonightly with Tom Ballard, VHS nostalgia, childhood memories, seeing shows at the comedy festival, Wil Anderson's work ethic, and a whole lot more!

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