<p>This week, Britt takes Kyle's spot and interviews Ben Orenstein about what he's been up to lately. Knight takes @r00k. Checkmate.</p>

<h4>Brought to you by:</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://do.co/ruby">Digital Ocean</a> (Get started today with a free 2 month trial of Spaces by going to <a href="http://do.co/ruby">do.co/ruby</a>).</li>
</ul>

This week, Britt takes Kyle's spot and interviews Ben Orenstein about what he's been up to lately. Knight takes @r00k. Checkmate. Brought to you by: Digital Ocean (Get started today with a free 2 month trial of Spaces by going to do.co/ruby).

<p>This week, Britt takes Kyle's spot and interviews Ben Orenstein about what he's been up to lately. Knight takes @r00k. Checkmate.</p>

Brought to you by:

<ul>
<li><a href="http://do.co/ruby" rel="noopener noreferrer">Digital Ocean</a> (Get started today with a free 2 month trial of Spaces by going to <a href="http://do.co/ruby" rel="noopener noreferrer">do.co/ruby</a>).</li>
</ul>

Episode 236: 236: No, You Refactor It!

The Ruby on Rails Podcast, a weekly conversation about Ruby on Rails, open source software, and the programming profession. Co-hosted by Nick Schwaderer. Edited by Peachtree Sound.

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