Alexander meets with the co-founder of Simplicity Institute, Samuel Alexander, in Melbourne Australia and they talk about the problems with the consumerist society and growth capitalism. The voluntary simplicity approach that Samuel is advocating as a solution to the environmental crisis, and the other things they talk about, is discussed in parallel by Mats and Alexander about a month after the interview.

Samuel and his colleagues are working on a film: "A Simpler Way: Crisis as Opportunity" http://simplicitycollective.com/a-simpler-way-crisis-as-opportunity-documentary

Simplicity Institute’s webpage: http://simplicityinstitute.org

The demonstration site Wurruk’an’s webpage: http://www.wurrukan.org/web/