Rachel Zucker speaks with poet, professor, translator, dancer, choreographer Julie Carr about her book Think Tank and her many other recent projects. They discuss narrative, abstraction, prose envy, pleasure, desire, movement, reading with a group, compositional process and writing habits, homophonic translation, writing-through-reading, pheromonal meter, improvisation, form, mode, and “the poetics of containment.” Carr describes how she and her husband Tim Roberts founded Counterpath Press and the evolution of the focus and identity of the press. Zucker and Carr talk about Carr's role as editor of Rachel’s book, MOTHERs. They also discuss teaching, the financial crisis, money, the daily, moving into more engagement with others, social and political activism and poetry as site of individual change, desire and arousal.