Our most productive episode yet! Is this a real friendship or what! We've lived different lives in terms of spending money on our experiences. Can Matt change Jeff's frugality? Is Jeff too old to be uncomfortable? We caught up on our experiences with religion and go through some major sins (e.g., playing with the occult, stubbornness, gay). Plus, other podcasts hate us for this one simple love language hack.

3 words: balloon, whisper, puzzle

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