Zac Loughman is a profesor at West Liberty University and the chair of the Zoo Science major. That's awesome enough for me but he's also involved in nearly every other facet of herpetoculture and herpetology possible. He's a crayfish biologist working with federally protected species. He's an author (keep an eye out for The Complete Hognose!). He's a field herper (check dr_crawdad on IG for his recent trip to Kansas). And he's the cohost of Colubrid&Colubroid Radio on the MPR Network. This was a great conversation and I was happy to have Zac come on the show. Listen in and then go forth and practice evidence based herpetoculture!