Fight Island is upon us yet again, as is another phenomenal episode of Top Turtle Podcast.

On this show Gumby and Shockwave are discussing the double title fight headliner and which underdogs they think will come out on top. You can, of course, catch that all during the “Fights, Dogs, and Parlays” segment, which hit on their underdog again last week with Randy Costa.

Gumby is bringing the interviews too. This week, he talks with Brandon Royval on his way to Fight Island to fight Kai Kara France. A win could make him a contender, so he discusses what that picture looks like. Then Gumby chats with Jack Cartwright ahead of his Cage Warriors title defense. He talks about where his style comes from and the prospect of fighting on the world’s biggest stage.

Timestamps:

1:49 - Brandon Royval Interview: Incoming Contender

12:29 - Jack Cartwright Interview: Chuck Liddelin’ It

30:19 - Fights, Dogs, and Parlays: UFC 253