This weeks guest is Phil from H.E. Creative. He is a brilliant punk-themed designer and illustrator and has a gem of a story to share. @hecreative

During this episode we talk about:

-Phils fun story behind their success. Working with small local businesses, to rap stars, then back to small local businesses. 

-how his art teachers in school cleary said "do not do this"...this being illustration and design. 

-the tour of Disney Animation that got him really excited about illustration and design. 

-the first actual project he created and how it sold out in hours. 

-the time in his career just before he made the decision to do the work he really wanted to do, and why it was such a challenging time. 

-the worst project he was ever a part of. 

-the kids book that he put out and how that came to be. 

We laugh, we cry, this interview has it all. Such a great conversation with a really genuine and talented guy. The story of HE Creative is not one to be missed. Also, my friend @danmumforddraws gets a shout out! Enjoy!