25 episodes. Illustration. Lists. Mash them all together and what have you got? That’s right, you’ve got a list of 25 things to do with illustration.

We talk about the illustrators and tools that have inspired us; from childhood, right up to the present day.

And if you get through that lot, we then talk pies. Pies, generously sent through the post by Rob’s lovely mother, all the way from Yorkshire.