This week, Sarah and MJ are joined by Martin Carr to talk about the lovely scene Sean and Chief Brody share after Brody is confronted by Mrs. Kitner. They talk about Steven Spielberg and his masterful directing abilities, what the scene means in light of the previous scene, and how everything about it feels like a Pixar movie. Then they spend some time sharing real facts that feel like lies regarding beloved directors and their most bizarre films.

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Theme song Tiger Shark written and performed by Kristen Falls. Available for purchase on her Bandcamp.