Katie and I chat about new Carhartt overalls, the gendered difficulty of finding a good overalls fit, and the healing from wearing camouflage overalls.

Also, Katie and I realized after we recorded that we had totally forgotten to talk about makeup, and in particular GLITTER, both of which are very important to Katie’s queer expression. Keep listening at the end to hear some beautiful glittery words from Katie.

Intro and outro music: New Year by Sacrosanct https://sacrosanct.bandcamp.com