Like so much of parenting, preparation for the next stage of your child's life is a long game.  In this episode Kirby and Paula talk about how to prepare to be successful empty nesters from the very beginning of your relationship.  Understanding that great marriages are successful before, during and after children they talk about ways they prepared their children for adult hood, ways they failed to prepare them, and when they started "thinking" about what life would be like after the children moved out.  Our wine is from the The People's Winery in Logansport, Indiana.