Episode 25 of The Widowmaker Podcast features long time friend of the show, Jenny Ma.  Jenny is the host of the Wake Up With Jenny and Friends morning show podcast.  She is also the owner of Oh Cheeky Monkey greeting cards.  Most notably, Jenny is a certified CBT (cognitive behavior therapist) and operates the Mindful Health Clinic.  In  this episode of the podcast we get semi serious for two minutes and have a chat about keeping your mental health in check and taking the time to reconnect with yourself through nature.  Don't worry there are still plenty of  jokes and nonsense banter.  Enjoy!