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This might be the best conversation unpacking this week's student debt SCOTUS oral arguments you'll hear. Fordham Law professor Jed Shugerman returns to the pod and gets some healthy pushback from Student Borrower Protection Deputy Executive Director Persis Yu. The expertise on display here is extraordinary, as the two go back and forth over the Supreme Court's likely holding with respect to Biden's student debt policy based on a close reading of the oral arguments, and whether Jed's amicus brief, referenced by Kavanaugh during oral arguments, correctly raises concerns about an over-expansion of executive power. You won't want to miss this one.

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