Jon Seligman speaks with Josh about how teaching primary/elementary music, at its best, brings 'cosmos out of chaos', to quote author Madeleine L'Engle. Jon finds purpose and hope in helping students to find their voices and become self-confident through music. Jon's Christian faith and work are inseparable. He also explains how other areas of his life, such as volunteer worship leading and taking photographs as a hobby, can similarly bring cosmos out of chaos.

Jon Seligman is a primary music teacher in Chula Vista, California. You can listen to his podcast on music education advocacy here.

Josh Seligman is a co-host of Forecast.

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