This is the first podcast we've ever done with a guest over the phone. We apologize in advance for some of the audio quality of the call. "JOE" is a guy that I (Kevin) have known since we were kids. Calling in all the way from California we decide to try out a phone call podcast. We talk a lot about old times while also cathing up on new things. There's some pretty good laughs on this one, overall I'd say it's a pretty good addition to our catalog. Thanks and enjoy...