Back in simpler times—aka a week ago—the social realities of living in a pandemic were just sinking in. Amy and Don follow an initial conversation about presidential politics with discussion of how the COVID-19 outbreak was disrupting their lives, including a desire to hug.

The situation has changed rapidly since this conversation took place, and some of what is in this conversation may not reflect our current reality. Our hosts plan to continue talking through the mess over the next several weeks of extreme social distancing and quarantine, taking advantage of modern technology to continue connecting. 

Additional resources:

• "Rainbow Coalition Comes Full Circle as Jesse Jackson Endorses Bernie Sanders" (The Intercept, by Ryan Grim, 3/8/2020)