<p>Editor-in-Chief Jeff Dufour talks to White House correspondent George Condon Jr. about all things West Wing from President Biden wanting to go to Ukraine to reports that White House National Climate Advisor Gina McCarthy may step down. Plus, could Trump's track record of endorsements mean his political influence is fading?</p>

Editor-in-Chief Jeff Dufour talks to White House correspondent George Condon Jr. about all things West Wing from President Biden wanting to go to Ukraine to reports that White House National Climate Advisor Gina McCarthy may step down. Plus, could Trump's track record of endorsements mean his political influence is fading?

Episode 260: The Next Move

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